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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:34:29 GMT -6
Post by GL on Jul 21, 2009 9:34:29 GMT -6
Yeah, but if I do that, then it's more of a thriller which I'm not that into. I'd rather it be a full-on horror/slasher film, which I can't do if it's 'just because.'
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:35:18 GMT -6
Post by bobbygory on Jul 21, 2009 9:35:18 GMT -6
Just because can be a full slasher, I don't get how that makes it a thriller?
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:40:16 GMT -6
Post by GL on Jul 21, 2009 9:40:16 GMT -6
Because I'd have to spend the time to built up the fact that he has an ulterior motive, which is later revealed to be nothing. With there being a motive in place, like the possession angle I mentioned, I can simply introduce it early on and then just have the rest be continuous stalking and chasing.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:42:38 GMT -6
Post by bobbygory on Jul 21, 2009 9:42:38 GMT -6
I still don't see thriller, but okay.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:44:48 GMT -6
Post by vexer on Jul 21, 2009 9:44:48 GMT -6
Doing it just because seems like lazy writing to me IMO, I think there should always be SOME reason for why a killer, well kills.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:45:28 GMT -6
Post by bobbygory on Jul 21, 2009 9:45:28 GMT -6
Okay, though most killers have no reason.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:54:32 GMT -6
Post by GL on Jul 21, 2009 9:54:32 GMT -6
Doing it just because seems like lazy writing to me IMO, I think there should always be SOME reason for why a killer, well kills. Exactly, that's what I was trying to say. Wow, he's killing people because he wants to be with her, sounds stupid.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:56:08 GMT -6
Post by bobbygory on Jul 21, 2009 9:56:08 GMT -6
Yeah lazy writing, anyone who sits and actually writes is not lazy..
Just because you don't like the idea don't call it lazy.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 9:59:09 GMT -6
Post by GL on Jul 21, 2009 9:59:09 GMT -6
It's called lazy writing because there's no thought or creativity shown in the premise. It needs to be creative or have some kind of hook, and just saying what you were going on about is something that won't make a film get made.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 10:00:47 GMT -6
Post by bobbygory on Jul 21, 2009 10:00:47 GMT -6
No, to you it needs a hook, but some of the best writing is simple. But of course you musy not know lit and don't know that.
Sorry sounding harsh but being a writer is not easy, and just because you don't like an idea does not mean it's lazy.
And the supernatural idea you have sounds pretty bad.
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Orphan
Jul 21, 2009 10:10:04 GMT -6
Post by vexer on Jul 21, 2009 10:10:04 GMT -6
Well I think it sounds damng ood! WAAAYYY better thne him killing for no reason, no offense Bobby but it always bugs the crap out of me whenever there's no reason given for why a killer kills people.
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 9:15:52 GMT -6
Post by GL on Jul 22, 2009 9:15:52 GMT -6
I fucking hate it with a passion. It just screams that there's no ideas present behind-the-scenes, so why should I care about his rampage?
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 9:31:48 GMT -6
Post by vexer on Jul 22, 2009 9:31:48 GMT -6
Yeah exactly! That's one reason why I never liked Halloween much and I liked part 6, because someone FINALLY offered an explanation for WHY Myers was killing people in the first place, granted it didn't make all that much sense, but it was still better then having no reaosn at all for him killing people.
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 9:44:20 GMT -6
Post by GL on Jul 22, 2009 9:44:20 GMT -6
That sister-stalking crap they offered in Part 2 was, IMO, worse than the Celtic reanimation stuff, that to me was lazy but at least with Part 6 they tried something new, and while it wasn't as well-spelled out as it could've been, it at least showed they tried.
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 9:45:26 GMT -6
Post by vexer on Jul 22, 2009 9:45:26 GMT -6
Exactly!
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 20:15:57 GMT -6
Post by bobbygory on Jul 22, 2009 20:15:57 GMT -6
Yeah okay, that is why 99 percent like the first Halloween the best.
Whatever not even gonna argue. Just because you two think something does not mean it's right.
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 20:56:37 GMT -6
Post by vexer on Jul 22, 2009 20:56:37 GMT -6
I know that, duh!!!!! I was jsut stating my opinion is all, it always really annoys me when people don't explain that sort of thing.
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 20:57:39 GMT -6
Post by bobbygory on Jul 22, 2009 20:57:39 GMT -6
Does not bother me a bit.
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Orphan
Jul 22, 2009 20:58:45 GMT -6
Post by WahlbergCasket on Jul 22, 2009 20:58:45 GMT -6
me either, otherwise I'd have to hate the majority of slashers since motive isn't really a major concern
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